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Update on PR Sculpting Question from Google Webmaster Help Groups Call and Matt Cutts

I just got off a WebEx call with most of the Google Webmaster Spam/Tools/Group team. The call was first of its kind as it had most of the Googler’s on talking about specific websites and issues that some users posted on Google Webmaster help.

I have saved the transcripts of the chat and Q & A for you to download from WebEx. You can find both here:

Google Chat from WebEx Call

Google Questions and Answers from WebEx Call

Lots of great topics were covered, but one that was of great interest to me was PR Sculpting.

At the end of the call I was able to ask the group about validity of PR Sculpting. Matt Cutt’s was kind enough an answer. I asked:

“Can you say that PR Sculpting is important for most all websites to use? With the recent firestorm of some SEOers saying sculpting does or does not work it would help to get a definitive answer from your team.”

I can’t directly quote Matt as it was answered through audio, but he was pretty clear stating that if have a clear information architecture from the beginning (hint Shari Thurow), it is wise to spend your time elsewhere for optimization of the website.

He used his analogy again to help explain it:

Nofollowing your internals can affect your ranking in Google, but it’s a 2nd order effect.

My analogy is: suppose you’ve got $100. Would you rather work on getting $300, or would you spend your time planning how to spend your $100 more wisely.

Spending the $100 more wisely is a matter of good site architecture (and nofollowing/sculpting PageRank if you want). But most people would benefit more from looking at how to get to the $300 level.

and went on to say that PR Sculpting is just another small piece that can help some websites.

Well what I take away from this is that sure PR Sculpting can work, it is not nearly worth all the hype that many of the SEOers out there are making it out to be. But of course those that read this blog already knew that right?

Over all the call was really informative and I think Barry at SE Roundtable will be posting a much better follow up to the points that were addressed.

I did get the strong feeling that if you do have problems with Google DO NOT hesitate to post the questions on Google Webmaster help Groups. They seem to be pushing that hard on the call.

One point I thought you would like to know. A poster asked all the Googler’s if you can do one thing to improve your websites positions on the SERP’s. Matt Cutt’s shouts out before anyone can answer: “Create a blog”. I guess that helps us understand the important of this type of feature on any website competing in SERPs.

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Written by incrediblehelp on March 28th, 2008 with 12 comments.
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Lil Tony
#1. March 28th, 2008, at 1:33 PM.

Something’s wrong with your ‘postratings’ plugin…I rated this post a 10 and it gave it 0.

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#2. March 28th, 2008, at 2:30 PM.

Does PR Sculpting Work? - Page 3 - WebProWorld: you would be wise spending your time in other optimization techniques. Take that as you will. ...

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#3. March 28th, 2008, at 2:48 PM.

Does PR Sculpting Work? - Page 4 - WebProWorld: you would be wise spending your time in other optimization techniques. Take that as you will. ...

John S. Britsios
#4. March 28th, 2008, at 4:54 PM.

Great post. Thanks for sharing. Looks like we are confirmed from Google after all.

SEO Canada
#5. March 28th, 2008, at 6:32 PM.

I’ve always found PR Sculpting to be over rated, as soon as you use the nofollow tag internally thats definitely not organic, and in the long run who knows how things will change. A better use of time is just build links, links, links, and more links.

John S. Britsios
#6. March 28th, 2008, at 11:54 PM.

Jaan, that you for pointing out the thread at WebProWorld. Everyone should follow our posts and make up their mind. :)

Halfdeck
#7. March 29th, 2008, at 4:31 PM.

Matt’s $100/300 analogy is spot on.

If you have the resources to do both (streamline spending AND increase revenue), there’s no reason not to do both. But if your resources are limited, forget internal nofollow (unless you’re talking about a minor patch, like adding sitewide nofollow to links to TOS).

John S. Britsios
#8. March 29th, 2008, at 10:42 PM.

What about this alternative to nofollow? http://www.webproworld.com/368246-post158.html

Ben Keeler
#9. March 31st, 2008, at 2:30 AM.

I saw that Google participated in “Earth Hour” the other night. I notcied when I was using my computer during that time (using energy) for things I had to do and their page was darkened black.

incrediblehelp
#10. March 31st, 2008, at 12:59 PM.

Yes Ben, pretty cool of them. I wonder with a website like Google that is one of the most popular online how much energy was saved by such an action.

incrediblehelp
#11. March 31st, 2008, at 4:06 PM.

For those interested here is the Google Groups thread for feedback on the Fridays meeting:

Discussions > Random chit-chat > Webmaster Help Chat Feedback

You can also download the transcripts from Google Groups here:

Discussions > Random chit-chat > Webmaster Help transcripts

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#12. April 16th, 2008, at 3:28 PM.

Optimise Your Contact Page, Don’t Nofollow It - Hobo SEO UK: long considered Google Pagerank, and the, some great, PageRank Sculpting discussions around the net, to be akin to an ...

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